Discussion:
[qmailtoaster] 550 5.7.1 Command rejected
Andreas Galatis
2008-01-14 21:35:32 UTC
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Hi list,

I have a customer trying to send a message to one server that replies always
with "550 5.7.1 Command rejected"
I tested the server via telnet and got the same result when entering the
from-adddress withaout < > surrounding the address.

If the address does not come from the address-book (where it is mostly written
in the required format), nobody writes it that way.
How can I enforce qmail to write the < > signs around an email-address
whenever that is missing?

Any help is appreciated.

Andreas


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Phil Leinhauser
2008-01-14 21:51:48 UTC
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Telnet servername 25
Server responds with 220 message
helo
Server says hello
Server says sender OK

rcpt to: ***@domain.com
Server says recipient OK start data end with . on line alone

Hi Jim
.
Server will forward


NOTE, no <> on address
Did you change anything in the settings for Qmail?

Phil


-----Original message-----
From: Andreas Galatis ***@unet.de
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:35:08 -0500
To: qmailtoaster-***@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] 550 5.7.1 Command rejected
Hi list,
I have a customer trying to send a message to one server that replies always
with "550 5.7.1 Command rejected"
I tested the server via telnet and got the same result when entering the
from-adddress withaout < > surrounding the address.
If the address does not come from the address-book (where it is mostly written
in the required format), nobody writes it that way.
How can I enforce qmail to write the < > signs around an email-address
whenever that is missing?
Any help is appreciated.
Andreas
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Cameron
2008-01-15 06:57:34 UTC
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I just set up qmail-toaster on CentOS5, Core2 duo, 1 Gig ram machine with a
clean install. Everything looks fine now, but when I try to send a test
message to myself using the Squirrelmail interface, I get a "511 sorry,
can't find a valid MX for sender domain" error. I'm using a domain I own
that doesn't currently have a mail server set up. The domain is
bstastjohns.com and I have mail.bstastjohns.com A and MX records pointed to
a temproary public IP at 71.86.114.51. I can't send in messages form outside
either. I'm pretty new to Linux and really new to qmail so please be gentle.
When I ping mail.bstastjohns.com it resolves to the correct IP. Any clues?

Regards,

Cameron


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Andreas Galatis
2008-01-15 07:51:38 UTC
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Hi Cameron,

me too, I cannot find an MX for bstastjohns.com
Maybe you missed s.th. when setting up the MX?

bye
Andreas
Post by Cameron
I just set up qmail-toaster on CentOS5, Core2 duo, 1 Gig ram machine with a
clean install. Everything looks fine now, but when I try to send a test
message to myself using the Squirrelmail interface, I get a "511 sorry,
can't find a valid MX for sender domain" error. I'm using a domain I own
that doesn't currently have a mail server set up. The domain is
bstastjohns.com and I have mail.bstastjohns.com A and MX records pointed to
a temproary public IP at 71.86.114.51. I can't send in messages form
outside either. I'm pretty new to Linux and really new to qmail so please
be gentle. When I ping mail.bstastjohns.com it resolves to the correct IP.
Any clues?
Regards,
Cameron
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Cameron
2008-01-15 14:26:41 UTC
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Well I'm registered at Register.com and updated all the fields I could find.
I'm not real sure what the s.th is.

Cameron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andreas Galatis" <***@unet.de>
To: <qmailtoaster-***@qmailtoaster.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Andreas Galatis
Hi Cameron,
me too, I cannot find an MX for bstastjohns.com
Maybe you missed s.th. when setting up the MX?
bye
Andreas
Post by Cameron
I just set up qmail-toaster on CentOS5, Core2 duo, 1 Gig ram machine with a
clean install. Everything looks fine now, but when I try to send a test
message to myself using the Squirrelmail interface, I get a "511 sorry,
can't find a valid MX for sender domain" error. I'm using a domain I own
that doesn't currently have a mail server set up. The domain is
bstastjohns.com and I have mail.bstastjohns.com A and MX records pointed to
a temproary public IP at 71.86.114.51. I can't send in messages form
outside either. I'm pretty new to Linux and really new to qmail so please
be gentle. When I ping mail.bstastjohns.com it resolves to the correct IP.
Any clues?
Regards,
Cameron
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Andreas Galatis
2008-01-15 07:42:05 UTC
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Hi Phil,
I did not change anything in qmail, it is a standard qmail-toaster running
like it is since several years.

I tested the other server as you can see here:
telnet smtp.kiv.de 25
Trying 195.226.81.250...
Connected to smtp.kiv.de.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 smtp.kiv.de ESMTP EKOM21
helo atlas
250 smtp.kiv.de talking to XXXXX ([XX.XXX.XX.XXX])
mail from: ***@q.com
553 5.5.2 Bad command format

If I set the mail-address in <> it goes through graylisting.
telnet smtp.kiv.de 25
Trying 195.226.81.250...
Connected to smtp.kiv.de.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 smtp.kiv.de ESMTP EKOM21
helo atlas
250 smtp.kiv.de talking to XXXXX ([XX.XXX.XX.XXX])
mail from: <***@q.com>
250 2.1.0 Ok
rcpt to: <***@kiv.de>
451 4.7.1 Greylisting in progress, please come back later

I searched google for the error and found the <> where required, some
mail-servers would insist on them while most servers where tolerant about
this fault.


Andreas
It's not normal for the post office to reject mail like that. You should be
Telnet servername 25
Server responds with 220 message
helo
Server says hello
Server says sender OK
Server says recipient OK start data end with . on line alone
Hi Jim
.
Server will forward
NOTE, no <> on address
Did you change anything in the settings for Qmail?
Phil
-----Original message-----
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 17:35:08 -0500
Subject: [qmailtoaster] 550 5.7.1 Command rejected
Hi list,
I have a customer trying to send a message to one server that replies
always with "550 5.7.1 Command rejected"
I tested the server via telnet and got the same result when entering the
from-adddress withaout < > surrounding the address.
If the address does not come from the address-book (where it is mostly
written in the required format), nobody writes it that way.
How can I enforce qmail to write the < > signs around an email-address
whenever that is missing?
Any help is appreciated.
Andreas
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Phil Leinhauser
2008-01-15 14:46:35 UTC
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I see your DNS is at register.com. You have an A record for your web site and that is working fine. Now you need to setup the MX record because when I query the DNS for one, it comes back empty. Look in your DNS control panel in the register.com where you setup the www. You should see something about an MX or Mail Exchanger record.

Phil


-----Original message-----
From: "Cameron" ***@dot11net.com
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:26:13 -0500
To: qmailtoaster-***@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Cameron
Well I'm registered at Register.com and updated all the fields I could find.
I'm not real sure what the s.th is.
Cameron
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Andreas Galatis
Hi Cameron,
me too, I cannot find an MX for bstastjohns.com
Maybe you missed s.th. when setting up the MX?
bye
Andreas
Post by Cameron
I just set up qmail-toaster on CentOS5, Core2 duo, 1 Gig ram machine with
a
clean install. Everything looks fine now, but when I try to send a test
message to myself using the Squirrelmail interface, I get a "511 sorry,
can't find a valid MX for sender domain" error. I'm using a domain I own
that doesn't currently have a mail server set up. The domain is
bstastjohns.com and I have mail.bstastjohns.com A and MX records pointed
to
a temproary public IP at 71.86.114.51. I can't send in messages form
outside either. I'm pretty new to Linux and really new to qmail so please
be gentle. When I ping mail.bstastjohns.com it resolves to the correct
IP.
Any clues?
Regards,
Cameron
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Cameron
2008-01-15 14:54:05 UTC
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I've done that...about 6 days ago. I set it up to point to
mail.bstastjohns.com and of course changed the A record for
mail.bstastjohns.com to the current IP. Do I need to set up TXT records or
add a PTR or is that more than I need?

Cameron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Leinhauser" <***@teqknow.com>
To: <qmailtoaster-***@qmailtoaster.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Phil Leinhauser
I see your DNS is at register.com. You have an A record for your web site
and that is working fine. Now you need to setup the MX record because when
I query the DNS for one, it comes back empty. Look in your DNS control
panel in the register.com where you setup the www. You should see
something about an MX or Mail Exchanger record.
Phil
-----Original message-----
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:26:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Cameron
Well I'm registered at Register.com and updated all the fields I could find.
I'm not real sure what the s.th is.
Cameron
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Andreas Galatis
Hi Cameron,
me too, I cannot find an MX for bstastjohns.com
Maybe you missed s.th. when setting up the MX?
bye
Andreas
Post by Cameron
I just set up qmail-toaster on CentOS5, Core2 duo, 1 Gig ram machine with
a
clean install. Everything looks fine now, but when I try to send a test
message to myself using the Squirrelmail interface, I get a "511 sorry,
can't find a valid MX for sender domain" error. I'm using a domain I own
that doesn't currently have a mail server set up. The domain is
bstastjohns.com and I have mail.bstastjohns.com A and MX records pointed
to
a temproary public IP at 71.86.114.51. I can't send in messages form
outside either. I'm pretty new to Linux and really new to qmail so please
be gentle. When I ping mail.bstastjohns.com it resolves to the correct
IP.
Any clues?
Regards,
Cameron
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Jake Vickers
2008-01-15 15:06:40 UTC
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Post by Cameron
I've done that...about 6 days ago. I set it up to point to
mail.bstastjohns.com and of course changed the A record for
mail.bstastjohns.com to the current IP. Do I need to set up TXT
records or add a PTR or is that more than I need?
Here is what is showing
www.DNSreport.com <http://www.DNSreport.com> at 15:04:27 GMT
on 15 Jan 2008.


Category Status Test Name Information
Parent *PASS* Missing Direct Parent check OK. Your direct parent zone
exists, which is good. Some domains (usually third or fourth level
domains, such as example.co.us) do not have a direct parent zone
('co.us' in this example), which is legal but can cause confusion.
*INFO* NS records at parent servers Your NS records at the parent
servers are:

|dns010.d.register.com. [216.21.236.10] [TTL=172800] [US]
dns029.c.register.com. [216.21.235.29] [TTL=172800] [US]
dns062.b.register.com. [216.21.232.62] [TTL=172800] [US]
dns213.a.register.com. [216.21.231.213] [TTL=172800] [US]
|[These were obtained from c.gtld-servers.net]
*PASS* Parent nameservers have your nameservers listed OK. When
someone uses DNS to look up your domain, the first step (if it doesn't
already know about your domain) is to go to the parent servers. If you
aren't listed there, you can't be found. But you are listed there.
*PASS* Glue at parent nameservers OK. The parent servers have glue for
your nameservers. That means they send out the IP address of your
nameservers, as well as their host names.
*PASS* DNS servers have A records OK. All your DNS servers either have
A records at the zone parent servers, or do not need them (if the DNS
servers are on other TLDs). A records are required for your hostnames to
ensure that other DNS servers can reach your DNS servers. Note that
there will be problems if your DNS servers do not have these same A
records.

NS *INFO* NS records at your nameservers Your NS records at your
nameservers are:

|dns213.a.register.com.
dns062.b.register.com.
dns029.c.register.com.
dns010.d.register.com.
|
*PASS* Open DNS servers OK. Your DNS servers do not announce that they
are open DNS servers. Although there is a slight chance that they really
are open DNS servers, this is very unlikely. Open DNS servers increase
the chances that of cache poisoning, can degrade performance of your
DNS, and can cause your DNS servers to be used in an attack (so it is
good that your DNS servers do not appear to be open DNS servers).
*PASS* Mismatched glue OK. The DNS report did not detect any
discrepancies between the glue provided by the parent servers and that
provided by your authoritative DNS servers.
*PASS* No NS A records at nameservers OK. Your nameservers do include
corresponding A records when asked for your NS records. This ensures
that your DNS servers know the A records corresponding to all your NS
records.
*PASS* All nameservers report identical NS records OK. The NS records
at all your nameservers are identical.
*PASS* All nameservers respond OK. All of your nameservers listed at
the parent nameservers responded.
*PASS* Nameserver name validity OK. All of the NS records that your
nameservers report seem valid (no IPs or partial domain names).
*PASS* Number of nameservers OK. You have 4 nameservers. You must have
at least 2 nameservers (RFC2182
<http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc2182.htm> section 5 recommends at
least 3 nameservers), and preferably no more than 7.
*PASS* Lame nameservers OK. All the nameservers listed at the parent
servers answer authoritatively for your domain.
*PASS* Missing (stealth) nameservers OK. All 4 of your nameservers (as
reported by your nameservers) are also listed at the parent servers.
*PASS* Missing nameservers 2 OK. All of the nameservers listed at the
parent nameservers are also listed as NS records at your nameservers.
*PASS* No CNAMEs for domain OK. There are no CNAMEs for
bstastjohns.com. RFC1912 <http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc1912.htm> 2.4
and RFC2181 <http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/rfc.ch?detail=2181> 10.3
state that there should be no CNAMEs if an NS (or any other) record is
present.
*PASS* No NSs with CNAMEs OK. There are no CNAMEs for your NS records.
RFC1912 <http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc1912.htm> 2.4 and RFC2181
<http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/rfc.ch?detail=2181> 10.3 state that
there should be no CNAMEs if an NS (or any other) record is present.
*PASS* Nameservers on separate class C's OK. You have nameservers on
different Class C (technically, /24) IP ranges. You must have
nameservers at geographically and topologically dispersed locations.
RFC2182 <http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc2182.htm> 3.1 goes into more
detail about secondary nameserver location.
*PASS* All NS IPs public OK. All of your NS records appear to use
public IPs. If there were any private IPs, they would not be reachable,
causing DNS delays.
*PASS* TCP Allowed OK. All your DNS servers allow TCP connections.
Although rarely used, TCP connections are occasionally used instead of
UDP connections. When firewalls block the TCP DNS connections, it can
cause hard-to-diagnose problems.
*INFO* Nameservers versions Your nameservers have the following versions:

216.21.236.10: "Register.com Basic DNS - New York, NY 0x0d"
216.21.235.29: "Register.com Basic DNS - Phoenix, AZ 0x0a"
216.21.232.62: "Register.com Basic DNS - Phoenix, AZ 0x0a"
216.21.231.213: "Register.com Basic DNS - New York, NY 0x0c"
*PASS* Stealth NS record leakage Your DNS servers do not leak any
stealth NS records (if any) in non-NS requests.

SOA *INFO* SOA record Your SOA record [TTL=14400] is:

|Primary nameserver: dns213.a.register.com.
Hostmaster E-mail address: root.register.com.
Serial #: 2007041017
Refresh: 28800
Retry: 7200
Expire: 604800
Default TTL: 14400
|
*PASS* NS agreement on SOA Serial # OK. All your nameservers agree
that your SOA serial number is 2007041017. That means that all your
nameservers are using the same data (unless you have different sets of
data with the same serial number, which would be very bad)! Note that
the DNSreport only checks the NS records listed at the parent servers
(not any stealth servers).
*PASS* SOA MNAME Check OK. Your SOA (Start of Authority) record states
that your *master* (primary) name server is: *dns213.a.register.com.*.
That server is listed at the parent servers, which is correct.

*PASS* SOA RNAME Check OK. Your SOA (Start of Authority) record states
that your DNS contact E-mail address is: ****@register.com.* (techie
note: we have changed the initial '.' to an '@' for display purposes).
*PASS* SOA Serial Number OK. Your SOA serial number is: *2007041017*.
This appears to be in the recommended format of YYYYMMDDnn, where 'nn'
is the revision. So this indicates that your DNS was last updated on 10
Apr 2007 (and was revision #17). This number *must* be incremented every
time you make a DNS change.
*PASS* SOA REFRESH value OK. Your SOA REFRESH interval is : *28800
seconds*. This seems normal (about 3600-7200 seconds is good if not
using DNS NOTIFY; RFC1912 <http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc1912.htm>
2.2 recommends a value between 1200 to 43200 seconds (20 minutes to 12
hours)). This value determines how often secondary/slave nameservers
check with the master for updates.
*PASS* SOA RETRY value OK. Your SOA RETRY interval is : *7200
seconds*. This seems normal (about 120-7200 seconds is good). The retry
value is the amount of time your secondary/slave nameservers will wait
to contact the master nameserver again if the last attempt failed.
*PASS* SOA EXPIRE value OK. Your SOA EXPIRE time: *604800 seconds*.
This seems normal (about 1209600 to 2419200 seconds (2-4 weeks) is
good). RFC1912 <http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc1912.htm> suggests 2-4
weeks. This is how long a secondary/slave nameserver will wait before
considering its DNS data stale if it can't reach the primary nameserver.
*PASS* SOA MINIMUM TTL value OK. Your SOA MINIMUM TTL is: *14400
seconds*. This seems normal (about 3,600 to 86400 seconds or 1-24 hours
is good). RFC2308 <http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc2308.htm> suggests a
value of 1-3 hours. This value used to determine the default
(technically, minimum) TTL (time-to-live) for DNS entries, but now is
used for negative caching.

MX *INFO* MX Record Your 1 MX record is:

|0 mail.bstastjohns.com. [TTL=14400] IP=71.86.114.51 [TTL=14400] [US]
|
*PASS* Low port test OK. Our local DNS server that uses a low port
number can get your MX record. Some DNS servers are behind firewalls
that block low port numbers. This does not guarantee that your DNS
server does not block low ports (this specific lookup must be cached),
but is a good indication that it does not.
*PASS* Invalid characters OK. All of your MX records appear to use
valid hostnames, without any invalid characters.
*PASS* All MX IPs public OK. All of your MX records appear to use
public IPs. If there were any private IPs, they would not be reachable,
causing slight mail delays, extra resource usage, and possibly bounced
mail.
*PASS* MX records are not CNAMEs OK. Looking up your MX record did not
just return a CNAME. If an MX record query returns a CNAME, extra
processing is required, and some mail servers may not be able to handle it.
*PASS* MX A lookups have no CNAMEs OK. There appear to be no CNAMEs
returned for A records lookups from your MX records (CNAMEs are
prohibited in MX records, according to RFC974
<http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc974.htm>, RFC1034
<http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/rfc.ch?detail=1034> 3.6.2, RFC1912
<http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/rfc.ch?detail=1912> 2.4, and RFC2181
<http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/rfc.ch?detail=2181> 10.3).
*PASS* MX is host name, not IP OK. All of your MX records are host
names (as opposed to IP addresses, which are not allowed in MX records).
*INFO* Multiple MX records NOTE: You only have 1 MX record. If your
primary mail server is down or unreachable, there is a chance that mail
may have troubles reaching you. In the past, mailservers would usually
re-try E-mail for up to 48 hours. But many now only re-try for a couple
of hours. If your primary mailserver is very reliable (or can be fixed
quickly if it goes down), having just one mailserver may be acceptable.
*PASS* Differing MX-A records OK. I did not detect differing IPs for
your MX records (this would happen if your DNS servers return different
IPs than the DNS servers that are authoritative for the hostname in your
MX records).
*PASS* Duplicate MX records OK. You do not have any duplicate MX
records (pointing to the same IP). Although technically valid, duplicate
MX records can cause a lot of confusion, and waste resources.
*PASS* Reverse DNS entries for MX records OK. The IPs of all of your
mail server(s) have reverse DNS (PTR) entries. RFC1912
<http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc1912.htm> 2.1 says you should have a
reverse DNS for all your mail servers. It is strongly urged that you
have them, as many mailservers will not accept mail from mailservers
with no reverse DNS entry. Note that this information is /cached/, so if
you changed it recently, it will not be reflected here (see the
www.DNSstuff.com Reverse DNS Tool <http://www.dnsstuff.com> for the
current data). The reverse DNS entries are:

| 51.114.86.71.in-addr.arpa 71-86-114-51.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com.
<http://www.DNSstuff.com/tools/ptr.ch?ip=71.86.114.51> [TTL=86400]
|

Mail *PASS* Connect to mail servers OK: I was able to connect to all
of your mailservers.
*WARN* Mail server host name in greeting WARNING: One or more of your
mailservers is claiming to be a host other than what it really is (the
SMTP greeting should be a 3-digit code, followed by a space or a dash,
then the host name). If your mailserver sends out E-mail using this
domain in its EHLO or HELO, your E-mail might get blocked by anti-spam
software. This is also a technical violation of RFC821
<http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc821.htm> 4.3 (and RFC2821
<http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/rfc.ch?detail=2821> 4.3.1). Note that
the hostname given in the SMTP greeting should have an A record pointing
back to the same server. Note that this one test may use a cached DNS
record.

|mail.bstastjohns.com claims to be host mail.dot11net.com [but that host
is at 69.56.171.162 (may be cached), not 71.86.114.51]. <br />|
*PASS* Acceptance of NULL <> sender OK: All of your mailservers accept
mail from "<>". You are required (RFC1123
<http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc1123.htm> 5.2.9) to receive this type
of mail (which includes reject/bounce messages and return receipts).
*PASS* Acceptance of postmaster address OK: All of your mailservers
accept mail to ***@bstastjohns.com (as required by RFC822
<http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc822.htm> 6.3, RFC1123
<http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/rfc.ch?detail=1123> 5.2.7, and
RFC2821 <http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/rfc.ch?detail=2821> 4.5.1).
*WARN* Acceptance of abuse address WARNING: One or more of your
mailservers does not accept mail to ***@bstastjohns.com. Mailservers
are expected by RFC2142 <http://www.DNSstuff.com/pages/rfc2142.htm> to
accept mail to abuse.

|mail.bstastjohns.com's abuse response:<br /> >>> RCPT
TO:<***@bstastjohns.com><br /> <<< 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that
name (#5.1.1 - chkuser) <br /> |
*PASS* Acceptance of domain literals OK: All of your mailservers
accept mail in the domain literal format (user@[71.86.114.51]).
*PASS* Open relay test OK: All of your mailservers appear to be closed
to relaying. This is /not/ a thorough check, you can get a thorough one
here <http://www.abuse.net/relay.html>.

|mail.bstastjohns.com OK: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of
allowed rcpthosts (#5.5.3 - chkuser) <br />|
*WARN* SPF record Your domain does not have an SPF record. This means
that spammers can easily send out E-mail that looks like it came from
your domain, which can make your domain look bad (if the recipient
thinks you really sent it), and can cost you money (when people complain
to you, rather than the spammer). You may want to add an SPF record
<http://www.openspf.org> ASAP, as 01 Oct 2004 was the target date for
domains to have SPF records in place (Hotmail, for example, started
checking SPF records on 01 Oct 2004).

WWW
*INFO* WWW Record Your www.bstastjohns.com A record is:

|www.bstastjohns.com. A 69.56.205.29 [TTL=14400] [US]
|
*PASS* All WWW IPs public OK. All of your WWW IPs appear to be public
IPs. If there were any private IPs, they would not be reachable, causing
problems reaching your web site.
*PASS* CNAME Lookup OK. Some domains have a CNAME record for their WWW
server that requires an extra DNS lookup, which slightly delays the
initial access to the website and use extra bandwidth. There are no
CNAMEs for www.bstastjohns.com, which is good.
*FAIL* *Domain A Lookup* ERROR: I couldn't find any A records for
bstastjohns.com. But I did find a referral to www.bstastjohns.com. (and
maybe others). If you want a website at bstastjohns.com (as well as
www.bstastjohns.com), you will need an A record for bstastjohns.com. If
you do not want a website at bstastjohns.com, you can ignore this error.
Cameron
2008-01-15 15:21:37 UTC
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Could the strange hostname be causing the problem or is the PTR record? Eventually that machine will also host the mail.dot11net.com mail as well. The bstastjohns.com is really just for testing. How do I change the hostname. When I look at my network file here is what I get:

[***@mail ~]# more /etc/sysconfig/network
NETWORKING=yes
NETWORKING_IPV6=yes
HOSTNAME=mail.bstastjohns.com
GATEWAY=71.86.114.49

Is there anohter place it needs to be changed?

Cameron
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself


Cameron wrote:
I've done that...about 6 days ago. I set it up to point to mail.bstastjohns.com and of course changed the A record for mail.bstastjohns.com to the current IP. Do I need to set up TXT records or add a PTR or is that more than I need?

Here is what is showing






www.DNSreport.com at 15:04:27 GMT on 15 Jan 2008.

Category Status Test Name Information
Parent PASS Missing Direct Parent check OK. Your direct parent zone exists, which is good. Some domains (usually third or fourth level domains, such as example.co.us) do not have a direct parent zone ('co.us' in this example), which is legal but can cause confusion.
INFO NS records at parent servers Your NS records at the parent servers are:

dns010.d.register.com. [216.21.236.10] [TTL=172800] [US]
dns029.c.register.com. [216.21.235.29] [TTL=172800] [US]
dns062.b.register.com. [216.21.232.62] [TTL=172800] [US]
dns213.a.register.com. [216.21.231.213] [TTL=172800] [US]
[These were obtained from c.gtld-servers.net]
PASS Parent nameservers have your nameservers listed OK. When someone uses DNS to look up your domain, the first step (if it doesn't already know about your domain) is to go to the parent servers. If you aren't listed there, you can't be found. But you are listed there.
PASS Glue at parent nameservers OK. The parent servers have glue for your nameservers. That means they send out the IP address of your nameservers, as well as their host names.
PASS DNS servers have A records OK. All your DNS servers either have A records at the zone parent servers, or do not need them (if the DNS servers are on other TLDs). A records are required for your hostnames to ensure that other DNS servers can reach your DNS servers. Note that there will be problems if your DNS servers do not have these same A records.
NS INFO NS records at your nameservers Your NS records at your nameservers are:

dns213.a.register.com.
dns062.b.register.com.
dns029.c.register.com.
dns010.d.register.com.

PASS Open DNS servers OK. Your DNS servers do not announce that they are open DNS servers. Although there is a slight chance that they really are open DNS servers, this is very unlikely. Open DNS servers increase the chances that of cache poisoning, can degrade performance of your DNS, and can cause your DNS servers to be used in an attack (so it is good that your DNS servers do not appear to be open DNS servers).
PASS Mismatched glue OK. The DNS report did not detect any discrepancies between the glue provided by the parent servers and that provided by your authoritative DNS servers.
PASS No NS A records at nameservers OK. Your nameservers do include corresponding A records when asked for your NS records. This ensures that your DNS servers know the A records corresponding to all your NS records.
PASS All nameservers report identical NS records OK. The NS records at all your nameservers are identical.
PASS All nameservers respond OK. All of your nameservers listed at the parent nameservers responded.
PASS Nameserver name validity OK. All of the NS records that your nameservers report seem valid (no IPs or partial domain names).
PASS Number of nameservers OK. You have 4 nameservers. You must have at least 2 nameservers (RFC2182 section 5 recommends at least 3 nameservers), and preferably no more than 7.
PASS Lame nameservers OK. All the nameservers listed at the parent servers answer authoritatively for your domain.
PASS Missing (stealth) nameservers OK. All 4 of your nameservers (as reported by your nameservers) are also listed at the parent servers.
PASS Missing nameservers 2 OK. All of the nameservers listed at the parent nameservers are also listed as NS records at your nameservers.
PASS No CNAMEs for domain OK. There are no CNAMEs for bstastjohns.com. RFC1912 2.4 and RFC2181 10.3 state that there should be no CNAMEs if an NS (or any other) record is present.
PASS No NSs with CNAMEs OK. There are no CNAMEs for your NS records. RFC1912 2.4 and RFC2181 10.3 state that there should be no CNAMEs if an NS (or any other) record is present.
PASS Nameservers on separate class C's OK. You have nameservers on different Class C (technically, /24) IP ranges. You must have nameservers at geographically and topologically dispersed locations. RFC2182 3.1 goes into more detail about secondary nameserver location.
PASS All NS IPs public OK. All of your NS records appear to use public IPs. If there were any private IPs, they would not be reachable, causing DNS delays.
PASS TCP Allowed OK. All your DNS servers allow TCP connections. Although rarely used, TCP connections are occasionally used instead of UDP connections. When firewalls block the TCP DNS connections, it can cause hard-to-diagnose problems.
INFO Nameservers versions Your nameservers have the following versions:

216.21.236.10: "Register.com Basic DNS - New York, NY 0x0d"
216.21.235.29: "Register.com Basic DNS - Phoenix, AZ 0x0a"
216.21.232.62: "Register.com Basic DNS - Phoenix, AZ 0x0a"
216.21.231.213: "Register.com Basic DNS - New York, NY 0x0c"

PASS Stealth NS record leakage Your DNS servers do not leak any stealth NS records (if any) in non-NS requests.
SOA INFO SOA record Your SOA record [TTL=14400] is:

Primary nameserver: dns213.a.register.com.
Hostmaster E-mail address: root.register.com.
Serial #: 2007041017
Refresh: 28800
Retry: 7200
Expire: 604800
Default TTL: 14400

PASS NS agreement on SOA Serial # OK. All your nameservers agree that your SOA serial number is 2007041017. That means that all your nameservers are using the same data (unless you have different sets of data with the same serial number, which would be very bad)! Note that the DNSreport only checks the NS records listed at the parent servers (not any stealth servers).

PASS SOA MNAME Check OK. Your SOA (Start of Authority) record states that your master (primary) name server is: dns213.a.register.com.. That server is listed at the parent servers, which is correct.

PASS SOA RNAME Check OK. Your SOA (Start of Authority) record states that your DNS contact E-mail address is: ***@register.com. (techie note: we have changed the initial '.' to an '@' for display purposes).
PASS SOA Serial Number OK. Your SOA serial number is: 2007041017. This appears to be in the recommended format of YYYYMMDDnn, where 'nn' is the revision. So this indicates that your DNS was last updated on 10 Apr 2007 (and was revision #17). This number must be incremented every time you make a DNS change.
PASS SOA REFRESH value OK. Your SOA REFRESH interval is : 28800 seconds. This seems normal (about 3600-7200 seconds is good if not using DNS NOTIFY; RFC1912 2.2 recommends a value between 1200 to 43200 seconds (20 minutes to 12 hours)). This value determines how often secondary/slave nameservers check with the master for updates.
PASS SOA RETRY value OK. Your SOA RETRY interval is : 7200 seconds. This seems normal (about 120-7200 seconds is good). The retry value is the amount of time your secondary/slave nameservers will wait to contact the master nameserver again if the last attempt failed.
PASS SOA EXPIRE value OK. Your SOA EXPIRE time: 604800 seconds. This seems normal (about 1209600 to 2419200 seconds (2-4 weeks) is good). RFC1912 suggests 2-4 weeks. This is how long a secondary/slave nameserver will wait before considering its DNS data stale if it can't reach the primary nameserver.
PASS SOA MINIMUM TTL value OK. Your SOA MINIMUM TTL is: 14400 seconds. This seems normal (about 3,600 to 86400 seconds or 1-24 hours is good). RFC2308 suggests a value of 1-3 hours. This value used to determine the default (technically, minimum) TTL (time-to-live) for DNS entries, but now is used for negative caching.
MX INFO MX Record Your 1 MX record is:

0 mail.bstastjohns.com. [TTL=14400] IP=71.86.114.51 [TTL=14400] [US]

PASS Low port test OK. Our local DNS server that uses a low port number can get your MX record. Some DNS servers are behind firewalls that block low port numbers. This does not guarantee that your DNS server does not block low ports (this specific lookup must be cached), but is a good indication that it does not.
PASS Invalid characters OK. All of your MX records appear to use valid hostnames, without any invalid characters.
PASS All MX IPs public OK. All of your MX records appear to use public IPs. If there were any private IPs, they would not be reachable, causing slight mail delays, extra resource usage, and possibly bounced mail.
PASS MX records are not CNAMEs OK. Looking up your MX record did not just return a CNAME. If an MX record query returns a CNAME, extra processing is required, and some mail servers may not be able to handle it.
PASS MX A lookups have no CNAMEs OK. There appear to be no CNAMEs returned for A records lookups from your MX records (CNAMEs are prohibited in MX records, according to RFC974, RFC1034 3.6.2, RFC1912 2.4, and RFC2181 10.3).
PASS MX is host name, not IP OK. All of your MX records are host names (as opposed to IP addresses, which are not allowed in MX records).
INFO Multiple MX records NOTE: You only have 1 MX record. If your primary mail server is down or unreachable, there is a chance that mail may have troubles reaching you. In the past, mailservers would usually re-try E-mail for up to 48 hours. But many now only re-try for a couple of hours. If your primary mailserver is very reliable (or can be fixed quickly if it goes down), having just one mailserver may be acceptable.
PASS Differing MX-A records OK. I did not detect differing IPs for your MX records (this would happen if your DNS servers return different IPs than the DNS servers that are authoritative for the hostname in your MX records).
PASS Duplicate MX records OK. You do not have any duplicate MX records (pointing to the same IP). Although technically valid, duplicate MX records can cause a lot of confusion, and waste resources.
PASS Reverse DNS entries for MX records OK. The IPs of all of your mail server(s) have reverse DNS (PTR) entries. RFC1912 2.1 says you should have a reverse DNS for all your mail servers. It is strongly urged that you have them, as many mailservers will not accept mail from mailservers with no reverse DNS entry. Note that this information is cached, so if you changed it recently, it will not be reflected here (see the www.DNSstuff.com Reverse DNS Tool for the current data). The reverse DNS entries are:

51.114.86.71.in-addr.arpa 71-86-114-51.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com. [TTL=86400]

Mail PASS Connect to mail servers OK: I was able to connect to all of your mailservers.
WARN Mail server host name in greeting WARNING: One or more of your mailservers is claiming to be a host other than what it really is (the SMTP greeting should be a 3-digit code, followed by a space or a dash, then the host name). If your mailserver sends out E-mail using this domain in its EHLO or HELO, your E-mail might get blocked by anti-spam software. This is also a technical violation of RFC821 4.3 (and RFC2821 4.3.1). Note that the hostname given in the SMTP greeting should have an A record pointing back to the same server. Note that this one test may use a cached DNS record.

mail.bstastjohns.com claims to be host mail.dot11net.com [but that host is at 69.56.171.162 (may be cached), not 71.86.114.51]. <br />
PASS Acceptance of NULL <> sender OK: All of your mailservers accept mail from "<>". You are required (RFC1123 5.2.9) to receive this type of mail (which includes reject/bounce messages and return receipts).
PASS Acceptance of postmaster address OK: All of your mailservers accept mail to ***@bstastjohns.com (as required by RFC822 6.3, RFC1123 5.2.7, and RFC2821 4.5.1).
WARN Acceptance of abuse address WARNING: One or more of your mailservers does not accept mail to ***@bstastjohns.com. Mailservers are expected by RFC2142 to accept mail to abuse.

mail.bstastjohns.com's abuse response:<br /> >>> RCPT TO:<***@bstastjohns.com><br /> <<< 511 sorry, no mailbox here by that name (#5.1.1 - chkuser) <br />
PASS Acceptance of domain literals OK: All of your mailservers accept mail in the domain literal format (user@[71.86.114.51]).
PASS Open relay test OK: All of your mailservers appear to be closed to relaying. This is not a thorough check, you can get a thorough one here.

mail.bstastjohns.com OK: 553 sorry, that domain isn't in my list of allowed rcpthosts (#5.5.3 - chkuser) <br />
WARN SPF record Your domain does not have an SPF record. This means that spammers can easily send out E-mail that looks like it came from your domain, which can make your domain look bad (if the recipient thinks you really sent it), and can cost you money (when people complain to you, rather than the spammer). You may want to add an SPF record ASAP, as 01 Oct 2004 was the target date for domains to have SPF records in place (Hotmail, for example, started checking SPF records on 01 Oct 2004).
WWW
INFO WWW Record Your www.bstastjohns.com A record is:

www.bstastjohns.com. A 69.56.205.29 [TTL=14400] [US]

PASS All WWW IPs public OK. All of your WWW IPs appear to be public IPs. If there were any private IPs, they would not be reachable, causing problems reaching your web site.
PASS CNAME Lookup OK. Some domains have a CNAME record for their WWW server that requires an extra DNS lookup, which slightly delays the initial access to the website and use extra bandwidth. There are no CNAMEs for www.bstastjohns.com, which is good.
FAIL Domain A Lookup ERROR: I couldn't find any A records for bstastjohns.com. But I did find a referral to www.bstastjohns.com. (and maybe others). If you want a website at bstastjohns.com (as well as www.bstastjohns.com), you will need an A record for bstastjohns.com. If you do not want a website at bstastjohns.com, you can ignore this error.
Eric "Shubes"
2008-01-15 16:50:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by Cameron
Could the strange hostname be causing the problem or is the PTR record?
I think the PTR record is causing the problem. I'd get rid of it.
a) I don't believe that you need a ptr record
b) MX records *must* point to type A records, *not* PTR records.

I'm not familiar with register.com's web pages, so it's hard for me to tell
you specifically what's wrong. In general terms, you need a type A record
for your host, and an MX record which points to that host's type A record.

HTH
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Cameron
2008-01-15 17:27:32 UTC
Permalink
Is there a quick and dirty way to email everyone in a domain using qmail?
Should I just set up a list and add everone to it? I have about 3000
addresses in one particular domain I'm moving over form a windows platform
and need to send out broadcast messages from time to time. What does
everyone suggest?



Regards,

Cameron


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l***@xmission.com
2008-01-15 17:36:24 UTC
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I wouldn't suggest a dirty way really. The cleanest way to handle
said action is the email list and add everyone to it. That is pretty
simple using qmailadmin. I'm not sure of any other way really.

Glen V.
Post by Cameron
Is there a quick and dirty way to email everyone in a domain using
qmail? Should I just set up a list and add everone to it? I have about
3000 addresses in one particular domain I'm moving over form a windows
platform and need to send out broadcast messages from time to time.
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Andreas Galatis
2008-01-15 23:24:42 UTC
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With qmail you have the binary /home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull
usage: vpopbull [options] -f [email_file] [virtual_domain] [...]
-v (print version number)
-V (verbose)
-f email_file (file with message contents)
-e exclude_email_addr_file (list of addresses to exclude)
-n (don't mail. Use with -V to list accounts)
-c (default, copy file)
-h (use hard links)
-s (use symbolic links)
To send to a whole domain:
/home/vpopmail/bin/vpopbull -f email_file virtual_domain.name

If you want to setup a mailing list with all domain-accounts just use -V to
list all accounts and feed that list to ezmlm for the mailing-list. (see man
ezmlm-sub how to bulk- subscribe them to an existing mailinglist)

Hope that helps

Andreas
Post by Cameron
Is there a quick and dirty way to email everyone in a domain using qmail?
Should I just set up a list and add everone to it? I have about 3000
addresses in one particular domain I'm moving over form a windows platform
and need to send out broadcast messages from time to time. What does
everyone suggest?
Regards,
Cameron
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Dan McAllister
2008-01-16 18:38:39 UTC
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Wouldn't SPAMmers LOVE the idea of being able to address something to
EVERYONE in a domain!

Unfortunately Cameron, you're going to have to make a list... the good
news is that you should be able to do this with the vpopmail CLI
commands in a shell script rather easily.
HINT:
1) create a list (***@mydomain.name)
2) write a shell script to use the command "vuserinfo -D mydomain.name"
and pipe the output into ezmlm-sub

I hope this helps!

Dan


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Post by Cameron
Is there a quick and dirty way to email everyone in a domain using
qmail? Should I just set up a list and add everone to it? I have about
3000 addresses in one particular domain I'm moving over form a windows
platform and need to send out broadcast messages from time to time.
What does everyone suggest?
Regards,
Cameron
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2008-01-17 03:48:52 UTC
Permalink
Thanks for the response Dan. I figured as much and went ahead and did this
yesterday.

Cameron
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From: "Dan McAllister" <***@it4soho.com>
To: <qmailtoaster-***@qmailtoaster.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] mail everone in a domain
Post by Dan McAllister
Wouldn't SPAMmers LOVE the idea of being able to address something to
EVERYONE in a domain!
Unfortunately Cameron, you're going to have to make a list... the good
news is that you should be able to do this with the vpopmail CLI commands
in a shell script rather easily.
2) write a shell script to use the command "vuserinfo -D mydomain.name"
and pipe the output into ezmlm-sub
I hope this helps!
Dan
Daniel McAllister, President
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224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701
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727-507-9435 Fax Only
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Post by Cameron
Is there a quick and dirty way to email everyone in a domain using qmail?
Should I just set up a list and add everone to it? I have about 3000
addresses in one particular domain I'm moving over form a windows
platform and need to send out broadcast messages from time to time. What
does everyone suggest?
Regards,
Cameron
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Michael Handiboe
2008-01-21 17:02:52 UTC
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Eric "Shubes" wrote:


welcome back, "Shubes" ... some of us noticed you were gone.

--mh

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Eric "Shubes"
2008-01-21 18:17:14 UTC
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Post by Michael Handiboe
welcome back, "Shubes" ... some of us noticed you were gone.
--mh
Thanks, Michael. Great to be back with you nice folks.
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Espen
2008-01-17 13:41:21 UTC
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Hi,



I get these error msgs every hour from cron.



/etc/cron.hourly/UpdateSaneSecurity.sh:

Cannot run: there is already a running copy



It has been working fine no problems at all.. it just began some days ago.

Ive tried to reboot but it didn't help.

Anny suggestions ?



qtp-whatami v0.2.4

DISTRO=CentOS

OSVER=5

ARCH=i686

BUILD_DIST=cnt50

BUILD_DIR=/usr/src/redhat

This machine's OS is supported, but this version/arch has not been tested.
Davide Bozzelli
2008-01-17 13:48:11 UTC
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Post by Espen
Hi,
I get these error msgs every hour from cron.
Cannot run: there is already a running copy
It seems that the script does not exit cleanly, and so the lock file
/tmp/update-sane.lck has not been deleted.
Try to delete it manually and then run the script , and check the
logfile to see where are the errors.

Generally you should receive via cron also the errors related to
download problem and so on .

Hope this can help,
Davide

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Espen
2008-01-17 17:59:08 UTC
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That seemed to do the trick.. Thank you.

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Emne: Re: [qmailtoaster] UpdateSaneSecurity.sh problems.
Post by Espen
Hi,
I get these error msgs every hour from cron.
Cannot run: there is already a running copy
It seems that the script does not exit cleanly, and so the lock file
/tmp/update-sane.lck has not been deleted.
Try to delete it manually and then run the script , and check the
logfile to see where are the errors.

Generally you should receive via cron also the errors related to
download problem and so on .

Hope this can help,
Davide

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Dan McAllister
2008-01-15 15:32:50 UTC
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Cameron:

If you are using SpamDyke, or another anti-spam, you may need to create
a PTR record for your DNS: that is, make the Internet (Public) IP
Address of your server reverse-resolve to something like bstastjohns.com
(or, if you ONLY do mail on that IP Address, mail.bstastjohns.com -- I
prefer the former).

The reason is that one commonly used anti-spam technique used today is a
check for a valid reverse-dns entry.

NOTE that, unless your IP address is a Register.com IP address (e.g.:
they are your hosting company for your server), you'll need to contact
your ISP to make this PTR entry! The "pathway" for resolving an IP
address's PTR entry goes through your ISP, not your domain name.

For now, I suggest removing any spam-blocking & making sure your ports
are open (no iptables active, if necessary, ports forwarded through
firewall/router).

Hope this helps!

Dan

Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

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Post by Cameron
I've done that...about 6 days ago. I set it up to point to
mail.bstastjohns.com and of course changed the A record for
mail.bstastjohns.com to the current IP. Do I need to set up TXT
records or add a PTR or is that more than I need?
Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Phil Leinhauser
I see your DNS is at register.com. You have an A record for your web
site and that is working fine. Now you need to setup the MX record
because when I query the DNS for one, it comes back empty. Look in
your DNS control panel in the register.com where you setup the www.
You should see something about an MX or Mail Exchanger record.
Phil
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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:26:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Cameron
Well I'm registered at Register.com and updated all the fields I could find.
I'm not real sure what the s.th is.
Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Andreas Galatis
Hi Cameron,
me too, I cannot find an MX for bstastjohns.com
Maybe you missed s.th. when setting up the MX?
bye
Andreas
Post by Cameron
I just set up qmail-toaster on CentOS5, Core2 duo, 1 Gig ram
machine >> with
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
a
clean install. Everything looks fine now, but when I try to send
a >> test
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
message to myself using the Squirrelmail interface, I get a "511 sorry,
can't find a valid MX for sender domain" error. I'm using a
domain I >> own
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
that doesn't currently have a mail server set up. The domain is
bstastjohns.com and I have mail.bstastjohns.com A and MX records pointed
to
a temproary public IP at 71.86.114.51. I can't send in messages form
outside either. I'm pretty new to Linux and really new to qmail
so >> please
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
be gentle. When I ping mail.bstastjohns.com it resolves to the
correct
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
IP.
Any clues?
Regards,
Cameron
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Cameron
2008-01-15 16:41:51 UTC
Permalink
Ok, I set up a TXT record from some stuff I found online and that seems to
have fixed my issue. Thanks for all the help. I'm sure I'll be asking
more...

Cameron
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan McAllister" <***@it4soho.com>
To: <qmailtoaster-***@qmailtoaster.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
If you are using SpamDyke, or another anti-spam, you may need to create a
PTR record for your DNS: that is, make the Internet (Public) IP Address of
your server reverse-resolve to something like bstastjohns.com (or, if you
ONLY do mail on that IP Address, mail.bstastjohns.com -- I prefer the
former).
The reason is that one commonly used anti-spam technique used today is a
check for a valid reverse-dns entry.
NOTE that, unless your IP address is a Register.com IP address (e.g.: they
are your hosting company for your server), you'll need to contact your ISP
to make this PTR entry! The "pathway" for resolving an IP address's PTR
entry goes through your ISP, not your domain name.
For now, I suggest removing any spam-blocking & making sure your ports are
open (no iptables active, if necessary, ports forwarded through
firewall/router).
Hope this helps!
Dan
Daniel McAllister, President
IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701
877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
727-507-9435 Fax Only
"When did you do your last backup?"
Ask me about unattended offsite backup solutions...
to protect your business, not just your data!
Post by Cameron
I've done that...about 6 days ago. I set it up to point to
mail.bstastjohns.com and of course changed the A record for
mail.bstastjohns.com to the current IP. Do I need to set up TXT records
or add a PTR or is that more than I need?
Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Phil Leinhauser
I see your DNS is at register.com. You have an A record for your web
site and that is working fine. Now you need to setup the MX record
because when I query the DNS for one, it comes back empty. Look in
your DNS control panel in the register.com where you setup the www. You
should see something about an MX or Mail Exchanger record.
Phil
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Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:26:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Cameron
Well I'm registered at Register.com and updated all the fields I could find.
I'm not real sure what the s.th is.
Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Andreas Galatis
Hi Cameron,
me too, I cannot find an MX for bstastjohns.com
Maybe you missed s.th. when setting up the MX?
bye
Andreas
Post by Cameron
I just set up qmail-toaster on CentOS5, Core2 duo, 1 Gig ram
machine >> with
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
a
clean install. Everything looks fine now, but when I try to send
a >> test
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
message to myself using the Squirrelmail interface, I get a "511 sorry,
can't find a valid MX for sender domain" error. I'm using a
domain I >> own
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
that doesn't currently have a mail server set up. The domain is
bstastjohns.com and I have mail.bstastjohns.com A and MX records pointed
to
a temproary public IP at 71.86.114.51. I can't send in messages form
outside either. I'm pretty new to Linux and really new to qmail
so >> please
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
be gentle. When I ping mail.bstastjohns.com it resolves to the
correct
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
IP.
Any clues?
Regards,
Cameron
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Dan McAllister
2008-01-16 18:29:10 UTC
Permalink
OK... this got me thinking... what are we overlooking....

Are you sure your mail server (from whom you're trying to send a test
message) is using DNS correctly? (not serving... USING)

Check your /etc/resolv.conf file... is should look like this:
search mylocaldomain.name
nameserver 192.168.0.2

NOTE: the IP address should be your own... just to be sure, you could
also use 127.0.0.1

Just because your system is a DNS server, doesn't mean you definitely
want it (the DNS server) to use itself as the server... you can force
your server to get "outside" resolutions by using an outside DNS
server... E.g.:
search mylocaldomain.name
nameserver 4.2.2.2

(The 4.2.2.2 address is a Verizon DNS server that is "open" to requests
-- even from non-Verizon IP addresses. It'll also respond to a PING, so
that's an easy IP address to file away in your limited mind-space!)

I hope this helps...

Dan

Daniel McAllister, President

IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701

877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
727-507-9435 Fax Only

"When did you do your last backup?"

Ask me about unattended offsite backup solutions...
to protect your business, not just your data!
Post by Cameron
Ok, I set up a TXT record from some stuff I found online and that
seems to have fixed my issue. Thanks for all the help. I'm sure I'll
be asking more...
Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Dan McAllister
If you are using SpamDyke, or another anti-spam, you may need to
create a PTR record for your DNS: that is, make the Internet (Public)
IP Address of your server reverse-resolve to something like
bstastjohns.com (or, if you ONLY do mail on that IP Address,
mail.bstastjohns.com -- I prefer the former).
The reason is that one commonly used anti-spam technique used today
is a check for a valid reverse-dns entry.
they are your hosting company for your server), you'll need to
contact your ISP to make this PTR entry! The "pathway" for resolving
an IP address's PTR entry goes through your ISP, not your domain name.
For now, I suggest removing any spam-blocking & making sure your
ports are open (no iptables active, if necessary, ports forwarded
through firewall/router).
Hope this helps!
Dan
Daniel McAllister, President
IT4SOHO, LLC
224 - 13th Avenue N
St. Petersburg, FL 33701
877-IT4SOHO: Toll Free
727-647-7646 In Pinellas
813-464-2093 In Hillsborough
727-507-9435 Fax Only
"When did you do your last backup?"
Ask me about unattended offsite backup solutions...
to protect your business, not just your data!
Post by Cameron
I've done that...about 6 days ago. I set it up to point to
mail.bstastjohns.com and of course changed the A record for
mail.bstastjohns.com to the current IP. Do I need to set up TXT
records or add a PTR or is that more than I need?
Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Phil Leinhauser
I see your DNS is at register.com. You have an A record for your
web site and that is working fine. Now you need to setup the MX
record because when I query the DNS for one, it comes back empty.
Look in your DNS control panel in the register.com where you setup
the www. You should see something about an MX or Mail Exchanger
record.
Phil
-----Original message-----
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:26:13 -0500
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Cameron
Well I'm registered at Register.com and updated all the fields I could find.
I'm not real sure what the s.th is.
Cameron
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Andreas Galatis
Hi Cameron,
me too, I cannot find an MX for bstastjohns.com
Maybe you missed s.th. when setting up the MX?
bye
Andreas
Post by Cameron
I just set up qmail-toaster on CentOS5, Core2 duo, 1 Gig ram
machine >> with
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
a
clean install. Everything looks fine now, but when I try to send
a >> test
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
message to myself using the Squirrelmail interface, I get a
"511 >> sorry,
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
can't find a valid MX for sender domain" error. I'm using a
domain I >> own
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
that doesn't currently have a mail server set up. The domain is
bstastjohns.com and I have mail.bstastjohns.com A and MX
records >> pointed
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
to
a temproary public IP at 71.86.114.51. I can't send in messages
form
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
outside either. I'm pretty new to Linux and really new to qmail
so >> please
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
be gentle. When I ping mail.bstastjohns.com it resolves to the
correct
Post by Andreas Galatis
Post by Cameron
IP.
Any clues?
Regards,
Cameron
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Phil Leinhauser
2008-01-15 17:22:35 UTC
Permalink
I have found that filtering mail that doesn't have PTR (Reverse) is not a good idea. Most service providers don't give you the delegation for the reverse so therefore you have to contact them to set it for you in their servers. This is mostly because most people just don't understand DNS forwards enough and reverse can be a bit more tricky. Just because you may have PTR records in your DNS server does not mean you have the delegation for that IP or range. In otherwords, it will only be effective for users on your own network, the Internet itself will not know about it.

If you decide to block by no Rdns, you should expect problems getting mail from some of the medium to lower level legitimate post offices. In fact, I would bet better than half of the Qmail users here don't have their Rdns setup correctly and would be blocked by no Rdns filters.

Phil


-----Original message-----
From: "Eric \"Shubes\"" ***@shubes.net
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:49:42 -0500
To: qmailtoaster-***@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Eric "Shubes"
Post by Cameron
Could the strange hostname be causing the problem or is the PTR record?
I think the PTR record is causing the problem. I'd get rid of it.
a) I don't believe that you need a ptr record
b) MX records *must* point to type A records, *not* PTR records.
I'm not familiar with register.com's web pages, so it's hard for me to tell
you specifically what's wrong. In general terms, you need a type A record
for your host, and an MX record which points to that host's type A record.
HTH
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Sam Clippinger
2008-01-16 04:25:39 UTC
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Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. You are correct: getting your
ISP to delegate rDNS control can be difficult. But ISPs are willing to
do that for "business class" accounts.

On my own servers, approximately 30% of all connections are rejected due
to missing rDNS. I also filter connections whose rDNS names don't
resolve to IP addresses -- that stops another 10%-30%. Interestingly,
the very few servers I've whitelisted have failed the second test
(unresolvable rDNS), not the first.

I also use DNS RBLs, my own blacklists, rDNS name filtering (searching
the rDNS name for the IP address) and graylisting to block more than
99.9% of all connections. My email address has been listed on public
web pages and mailing list archives since 1997. Spammers know who I am.
But thanks to the filtering I get, on average, 1 spam every day.

Of course every mail server administrator has to decide their own
policies but it's worth mentioning that most of the big mail providers
(AOL, Yahoo!, etc) filter based on missing rDNS. That makes it easier
to defend rDNS filtering if you get any complaints.

-- Sam Clippinger
Post by Phil Leinhauser
I have found that filtering mail that doesn't have PTR (Reverse) is not a good idea. Most service providers don't give you the delegation for the reverse so therefore you have to contact them to set it for you in their servers. This is mostly because most people just don't understand DNS forwards enough and reverse can be a bit more tricky. Just because you may have PTR records in your DNS server does not mean you have the delegation for that IP or range. In otherwords, it will only be effective for users on your own network, the Internet itself will not know about it.
If you decide to block by no Rdns, you should expect problems getting mail from some of the medium to lower level legitimate post offices. In fact, I would bet better than half of the Qmail users here don't have their Rdns setup correctly and would be blocked by no Rdns filters.
Phil
-----Original message-----
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:49:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Eric "Shubes"
Post by Cameron
Could the strange hostname be causing the problem or is the PTR record?
I think the PTR record is causing the problem. I'd get rid of it.
a) I don't believe that you need a ptr record
b) MX records *must* point to type A records, *not* PTR records.
I'm not familiar with register.com's web pages, so it's hard for me to tell
you specifically what's wrong. In general terms, you need a type A record
for your host, and an MX record which points to that host's type A record.
HTH
--
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Phil Leinhauser
2008-01-16 15:29:38 UTC
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Like anything else we do in this industry, the usual disclaimer or "Your
mileage may vary" always applies. I've tried the rDNS blocking but it just
was too big of a hammer for me. I got tired of the calls from customers. I
would have to say that by far using the right combination of RBLs and
filters is the best I have found.

Just for kicks, I'll share what my config looks like:
2- Symantec Mail security for SMTP gateways servers running parallel
Each receive about 10,000 connections an hour during the week, less
on weekends. Out of those 10k- 8,000 are rejected connections from RBL and
MX lookup and a bit less than 2,000 are rejected by spam filters. This
comes to a around 2% is allowed in.

Then I have the QMT server do the finish scanning but that seems to only be
catching about 2% as spam.

I've been at this game since the mid 80's. I've learned the very valuable
lesson that it's much better to let a few spam slip through then to
mistakenly kill 1 legitimate message.

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Clippinger [mailto:***@silence.org]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:26 PM
To: qmailtoaster-***@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself

Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. You are correct: getting your
ISP to delegate rDNS control can be difficult. But ISPs are willing to
do that for "business class" accounts.

On my own servers, approximately 30% of all connections are rejected due
to missing rDNS. I also filter connections whose rDNS names don't
resolve to IP addresses -- that stops another 10%-30%. Interestingly,
the very few servers I've whitelisted have failed the second test
(unresolvable rDNS), not the first.

I also use DNS RBLs, my own blacklists, rDNS name filtering (searching
the rDNS name for the IP address) and graylisting to block more than
99.9% of all connections. My email address has been listed on public
web pages and mailing list archives since 1997. Spammers know who I am.
But thanks to the filtering I get, on average, 1 spam every day.

Of course every mail server administrator has to decide their own
policies but it's worth mentioning that most of the big mail providers
(AOL, Yahoo!, etc) filter based on missing rDNS. That makes it easier
to defend rDNS filtering if you get any complaints.

-- Sam Clippinger
Post by Phil Leinhauser
I have found that filtering mail that doesn't have PTR (Reverse) is not a
good idea. Most service providers don't give you the delegation for the
reverse so therefore you have to contact them to set it for you in their
servers. This is mostly because most people just don't understand DNS
forwards enough and reverse can be a bit more tricky. Just because you may
have PTR records in your DNS server does not mean you have the delegation
for that IP or range. In otherwords, it will only be effective for users on
your own network, the Internet itself will not know about it.
Post by Phil Leinhauser
If you decide to block by no Rdns, you should expect problems getting mail
from some of the medium to lower level legitimate post offices. In fact, I
would bet better than half of the Qmail users here don't have their Rdns
setup correctly and would be blocked by no Rdns filters.
Post by Phil Leinhauser
Phil
-----Original message-----
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:49:42 -0500
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by Eric "Shubes"
Post by Cameron
Could the strange hostname be causing the problem or is the PTR record?
I think the PTR record is causing the problem. I'd get rid of it.
a) I don't believe that you need a ptr record
b) MX records *must* point to type A records, *not* PTR records.
I'm not familiar with register.com's web pages, so it's hard for me to tell
you specifically what's wrong. In general terms, you need a type A record
for your host, and an MX record which points to that host's type A record.
HTH
--
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PakOgah
2008-01-16 16:12:41 UTC
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Post by Phil Leinhauser
I've learned the very valuable
lesson that it's much better to let a few spam slip through then to
mistakenly kill 1 legitimate message.
Phil
I'm agreed with you
sorry, just sharing my experience and feeling about qmailtoaster.

when I chosed qmailtoaster it's because old mailserver dont have any
spamfilter
(actually there is but it's using commercial software were later bought
by Microsoft -RAV-, then they discontinue the support)
users, boss, and my bigboss always complain about the spam almost every
weeks.

with qmailtoaster I'm happy with it got the modular system, so I can add
other apps easily (it's my first time setup a mailserver)
and with help from everyone on the milist I was too anxious to setup a
nospam mailserver.
at first below antispam filter that are activated on my server:
-- greylisting (active)
-- RBLs (active and use more then 1 rblsmtpd provider)
-- chkuser (active)
-- simscan (active)
-- clamav w/ SaneSecurity + SecuriteInfo Signature (active)
-- spamassassin (active)
--- SURBL (active)
--- FuzzyOcr (active)
--- SARE's imageinfo and pdfinfo (active)
--- Openprotect (active)
--- pyzor (active)
-- spambox option (active)

but after few months users complain about one or two legitimate that
they never receive and wandering why they tagged as ***SPAM***
then I must add recipient domain SA whitelist, add the IP on DNS
whitelist (so it wont reject by rblsmptd),
notify the users to check their SPAM folder or send the legitimate email
to ***@myholding.com
but there is always incident users can't rvcd legitimate email.
until one day a high-rank user complain his email from vendor/partner
(which contain asian chars) almost never been rcvd.
my bigboss asked to fix it right away, telling me not to make the filter
too tight (he never praise me that now he got less spam)
afterthat below are filters that activated on my server:

-- RBLs (active, only use spamhaus)
-- simscan (active)
-- clamav w/ SaneSecurity + SecuriteInfo Signature (active)
-- spamassassin (active)
--- SURBL (active)
--- SARE's imageinfo and pdfinfo (active)
--- Openprotect (active)

after removing some filters until now no users complaining that he never
rcvd legitimate email. I can back become lazy-admin

spamdyke is really complete (and complex) anti-spam tool for me..
when spamdyke is officially included on qmailtoaster, I'll be using it also
but for now, SA + clamav is enough for me.
just lets the tools and options there
and admins can choose their weapon to fight spam

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Ben Mills
2008-01-16 15:18:16 UTC
Permalink
Filtering on missing rDNS and rDNS that doesn't resolve to the hostname
is one of the few spam-fighting tools available. Spamassassin and
blacklists such as Spamhaus's bundled xbl help to some extent, but their
abilities are limited.

Several years ago, AOL started filtering rDNS. If it didn't resolve, it
rejected the connection. Since then virtually all the big ISPs and most
of the smaller ISPs that have modern MTA software filter rDNS. My logs
show that every single rejection based on rDNS is garbage mail--no
collateral damage.

I do agree that most ISPs won't delegate rDNS. But if you're using a
biz-class service, they'll gladly set the rDNS for you. Those who buy
class C service do get it delegated.

Ben
Post by Phil Leinhauser
I have found that filtering mail that doesn't have PTR (Reverse) is not a good idea. Most service providers don't give you the delegation for the reverse so therefore you have to contact them to set it for you in their servers. This is mostly because most people just don't understand DNS forwards enough and reverse can be a bit more tricky. Just because you may have PTR records in your DNS server does not mean you have the delegation for that IP or range. In otherwords, it will only be effective for users on your own network, the Internet itself will not know about it.
If you decide to block by no Rdns, you should expect problems getting mail from some of the medium to lower level legitimate post offices. In fact, I would bet better than half of the Qmail users here don't have their Rdns setup correctly and would be blocked by no Rdns filters.
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Phil Leinhauser
2008-01-16 17:57:05 UTC
Permalink
The bottom line is what works for the customer. Good points from both sides but the bottom line is what you need to accomplish your goal may not be the same as someone else. It's also good for the new users to see that even the seasoned veterans can't settle on the right formula because there is no "one size fits all".
Post by PakOgah
after removing some filters until now no users complaining that he never
rcvd legitimate email. I can back become lazy-admin
LOL!! "Lazy admin" Isn't that the bottom line for all of us?!?! Feet up on the desk looking for the end of the internet?

Phil


-----Original message-----
From: PakOgah ***@pala.bo-tak.info
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:12:07 -0500
To: qmailtoaster-***@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] can't send test message to myself
Post by PakOgah
Post by Phil Leinhauser
I've learned the very valuable
lesson that it's much better to let a few spam slip through then to
mistakenly kill 1 legitimate message.
Phil
I'm agreed with you
sorry, just sharing my experience and feeling about qmailtoaster.
when I chosed qmailtoaster it's because old mailserver dont have any
spamfilter
(actually there is but it's using commercial software were later bought
by Microsoft -RAV-, then they discontinue the support)
users, boss, and my bigboss always complain about the spam almost every
weeks.
with qmailtoaster I'm happy with it got the modular system, so I can add
other apps easily (it's my first time setup a mailserver)
and with help from everyone on the milist I was too anxious to setup a
nospam mailserver.
-- greylisting (active)
-- RBLs (active and use more then 1 rblsmtpd provider)
-- chkuser (active)
-- simscan (active)
-- clamav w/ SaneSecurity + SecuriteInfo Signature (active)
-- spamassassin (active)
--- SURBL (active)
--- FuzzyOcr (active)
--- SARE's imageinfo and pdfinfo (active)
--- Openprotect (active)
--- pyzor (active)
-- spambox option (active)
but after few months users complain about one or two legitimate that
they never receive and wandering why they tagged as ***SPAM***
then I must add recipient domain SA whitelist, add the IP on DNS
whitelist (so it wont reject by rblsmptd),
notify the users to check their SPAM folder or send the legitimate email
but there is always incident users can't rvcd legitimate email.
until one day a high-rank user complain his email from vendor/partner
(which contain asian chars) almost never been rcvd.
my bigboss asked to fix it right away, telling me not to make the filter
too tight (he never praise me that now he got less spam)
-- RBLs (active, only use spamhaus)
-- simscan (active)
-- clamav w/ SaneSecurity + SecuriteInfo Signature (active)
-- spamassassin (active)
--- SURBL (active)
--- SARE's imageinfo and pdfinfo (active)
--- Openprotect (active)
after removing some filters until now no users complaining that he never
rcvd legitimate email. I can back become lazy-admin
spamdyke is really complete (and complex) anti-spam tool for me..
when spamdyke is officially included on qmailtoaster, I'll be using it also
but for now, SA + clamav is enough for me.
just lets the tools and options there
and admins can choose their weapon to fight spam
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